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her34
10-01-2007, 04:47 PM
on the dd-wrt tutorial (http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3655041) it mentioned that in repeater mode the router is logging in as a client and creating it's own subnet for users to connect to, so not all users over the entire network can see each other.

also it's my understanding that the repeater will cut max throughput in half.

my question is: do all repeaters have these 2 limitations (different subnet & half throughput)? what about a different custom firmware like tomato? or the standalone repeaters from linksys, dlink, etc?

Gatewave
10-11-2007, 10:08 PM
there is an option called wireless seperation... if that is enabled then the clients connected to the AP will not see eachother.

As for the second question. I guess it does make sense to reduce the throughput in half as it needs to do the same action twice.

M/Q
10-12-2007, 08:19 AM
You do not have to have each client on a different subnet, that is just a security feature used mainly by hotspots.

As for the loss of data throughput that is real and unavoidable. Each wireless link is half duplex and has sufficient management over head to reduce actual throughput to around 50% of the rated one way burst speed that is advertised. A repeater uses two steps to do the same thing, thus the throughput is again cut in half. Repeaters should be considered a last resort as they introduce instability.

umdivx
10-12-2007, 11:18 AM
I pretty much have my entire town home complex completely blanketed with buffalo routers running DD-WRT and I am using WDS mode to connect them all together.

I can tell you, yes the through put is cut in half, but half of 54g router is still better than 11b speeds. I can, at the furthest point from my home where the main internet POP is, can get full 12mbps downloads which for me I am pretty content with.

- Josh

KenK
10-16-2007, 10:11 AM
I have a linksys with dd-wrt on it. Its a version 6 and I had to use
the condensed version of the firmware.

I have done a lot of reading and still I am not crystal clear the steps
to make the router a repeater. I want to be able to take the router
on trips with me, place it in the window and have it repeat what
it finds.

I was wondering if there where any step by step procedures with pictures
showing how to configure for a repeater. So far everything I read
was not clear if it would work on the micro version.

Ken

umdivx
10-16-2007, 11:22 AM
I have a linksys with dd-wrt on it. Its a version 6 and I had to use
the condensed version of the firmware.

I have done a lot of reading and still I am not crystal clear the steps
to make the router a repeater. I want to be able to take the router
on trips with me, place it in the window and have it repeat what
it finds.

I was wondering if there where any step by step procedures with pictures
showing how to configure for a repeater. So far everything I read
was not clear if it would work on the micro version.

Ken

Won't happen, unless by some chance that network is also running a broadcom chipset based access point.

You can't just auto setup a router to repeat any signal, they are not made that way.

- Josh

her34
10-19-2007, 05:18 PM
You do not have to have each client on a different subnet, that is just a security feature used mainly by hotspots.


is the article out of date when it says

At the time of this writing, wireless repeater mode does not yet function in bridged mode. This means that, as noted earlier, clients connected to your DD-WRT repeater must be inside their own subnet, preventing them from seeing clients connected to the host AP.

the newest firmwares don't behave like that?