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ahmedphil
01-22-2006, 12:20 PM
Hello ,
Please post your satellite Internet provider , my provider is
JINSAT
http://www.jinsat.com
thanks
Just curious as to where this thread is going. Is there a question or comment?
airwerx
01-22-2006, 01:11 PM
Just curious as to where this thread is going. Is there a question or comment?
I'm really curious as to why members of this board are being so tightly policed? How can one be accused of posting spam without mentioning any product names or supplier names?
I'm here to learn why certain specs are being under-utilized. I'm wanting to know an inexpensive solution for client side WiFi hardware.
What do I seem to get in response? Only time will tell...
airwerx, I do not see any where in my previous post where I mentioned anything about SPAM. The question was rather ambiguous and I was just trying to ask what they wanted. You check the forum, I doubt that there is another post like that.
This is a no SPAM and a no flaming forum with a certain air of professionalism. If you have a problem with the forum rules there are plenty other ones out there.
And your statement "inexpensive solution for client side WiFi hardware" is ambiguous as well. You need to explain that in your own thread, without advertising your company as you did in your previous thread.
airwerx
01-22-2006, 02:26 PM
airwerx, I do not see any where in my previous post where I mentioned anything about SPAM. The question was rather ambiguous and I was just trying to ask what they wanted. You check the forum, I doubt that there is another post like that.
This is a no SPAM and a no flaming forum with a certain air of professionalism. If you have a problem with the forum rules there are plenty other ones out there.
And your statement "inexpensive solution for client side WiFi hardware" is ambiguous as well. You need to explain that in your own thread, without advertising your company as you did in your previous thread.
As stated privately, I had no intention to advertise my company on your board. If I'd had the opportunity to edit what I'd posted, rest assured that the new version would be in compliance. That was my first post and I sincerely apologize if I stepped over any lines.
Perhaps you'll choose to privately comment on what exactly crossed any defined spam line?
egeier
01-22-2006, 02:58 PM
I've never had the chance to experiment with internet satellite service.
Just curious, is JINSAT's rates typical? Seems a bit expensive.
And do the TV sat companies (Direct TV, DISH, etc) offer internet?
airwerx
01-22-2006, 03:55 PM
Hi Eric, as a rule all providers of satellite internet are going to be more expensive than traditional high-speed feeds found in cities and bigger towns.
Two forms of satellite internet are available in most countries, consumer and commercial grade. As you can imagine, commercial grade satellite services are much faster with guaranteed uptime. Features such as VoIP won't operate well on consumer grade satellite networks. National Retail chains and Oil & Gas rely heavily on VSAT technology.
Steven Thompson
VSAT Professional, Field Support
In most cases satellite Internet is the last resort. It has a huge latency issue, that most likely will never be overcome as it is basically the distance from the Earth that the satellite in LEO. Even at the speed of light the signals exhibit a timing latency that is many times more than a signal that is in copper sent completely around the world. It is still more than many applications (VOIP, Internet games are some) can handle and even TCP/IP will act somewhat erratically.
I have/had several clients with a sat systems and it is still better than dial up. But as other broadband technologies are introduced into their area they immediately switch for the latency and cost reasons.
airwerx
01-22-2006, 04:58 PM
Hi M/Q, The points you make are valid concerns for consumer grade satellite equipment.
Current VoIP providers are eating tons of bandwidth. I believe anytime a VoIP (Vonage/Packet-8/etc.) connection falls below 32 Kbps the call quality suffers or the calls simply drop.
Commercial satellite providers have developed quality VoIP connections that require less bandwidth (8-12 Kbps). Speech timing is also addressed during the initial first few seconds of all VoIP connections which lessons any echo or delays created by latency. Ping times on commercial VSAT networks are coming down to the 500-600ms range.
That maybe true but 95% of the people at this forum are consumers and can not afford business plans. Businesses shouldn't either if they have cheaper/better alternatives, which in most cases they do. I might refer you to DSLreports.com as that is more business orientated.
You can be impressed with those ping rates, but not me. I can run multiple pings around the world faster than that.
airwerx
01-22-2006, 06:02 PM
My intentions are to educate those who want to learn more about VSAT.
Commercial VSAT systems are expensive. The same can be said for 'high-speed' deployments of any form (Cable/DSL/WiFi/Powerline).
My final intention is to learn as much as I can about small WiFi deployments. Has anyone had success deploying a small WISP using 5 GHz equipment? If yes, please be specific on costs and configuration...
spiderbite
01-22-2006, 06:26 PM
Maybe I'm confused...
Was there a point to this thread? Airwerx, your intentions are to educate those who want to learn about V-SAT? God Bless You son, that's a noble endevour, but did I miss the part where somebody asked about V-SAT?
Try not piss anybody off, they'll fire your butt right out of here...
Other than that, have a nice day!